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Can I build this solution with Payment Form

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3 weeks 3 days ago #178121 by Chris Jarvis
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Hello
I have been using Payment Form really well for a while as a great secure way to process payments for our members that arise.
At the moment we run a simple model of a colleague processes a payment for anything at all on behalf of a member and it processes it through Eway and we can see all payments made in the admin area.
My colleague processes it through the front end of the website with a menu item only they can see.

We want to advance that now and wondered is it possible that my colleague creates a payment for each member when needed but only sets the amount owing and what it is for and then the member can login to their own member area, navigate to the payment page and complete their payment to us themselves? 
Without seeing anyone elses and always being able to see their payment history?
We would love to create payments owing by members for anything that comes up and then they are responsible for logging in and making that payment
If this is possible please let me know

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3 weeks 3 days ago #178122 by Tuan Pham Ngoc
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Hi Chris

Unfortunately, Payment Form can only allow users to access to the form to make payment. It does not have an option to allow manager to create payment record with predefined amount, then users login to see and process payment for that amount

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2 weeks 6 days ago #178150 by Chris Jarvis
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Thanks Tuan
Does the visitor decide how much to pay by entering any amount they like into the form?
What happens if they don't put the correct amount in? Do we need to chase them up for more if they are short? Or worse, refund them if they overpay us?

I will have to rethink my idea unfortunately maybe. I did think using Membership Pro and adding a plan originally but each Member could be a different amount or combination of fees so I started to think Payment Form could be perfect but I only want each member to see their own details and Membership Pro can do that. We have membership already for each member but we wanted to take additional payments as some of our members enjoy other paid extra's from our site.

Would it be possible in the future for our Admins to create a payment record for any member through Payment Form and set the amount to pay and then have the member login and see their (invoice) payment form menu item and pay the amount owing?
I think this would be a useful feature and almost make a mini invoicing system available through our website to take payments.

I would be happy to pay for additional work if you feel it could be done.

Please let me know your thoughts

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2 weeks 6 days ago #178152 by Tuan Pham Ngoc
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Hi Chris

There are many ways to define the payment amount visitors have to pay:

- A fixed payment amount
- Allow visitor to choose from pre-defined amount
- Or allow them to enter the amount they want to pay

If they do not enter correct amount, yes, somehow you will have to ask them to pay the remaining or refund the over pay amount.

Allow admin to create invoice to allow users to pay is not something planned for Payment Form. That could be a new extension for invoice, but I'm unsure if I would develop it yet

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2 weeks 6 days ago #178153 by Chris Jarvis
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Thanks for the quick reply Tuan.
I probably explained this badly sorry but with you replying this to me:

"Hi Chris
There are many ways to define the payment amount visitors have to pay:
- A fixed payment amount
- Allow visitor to choose from pre-defined amount

- Or allow them to enter the amount they want to pay
If they do not enter correct amount, yes, somehow you will have to ask them to pay the remaining or refund the over pay amount."

If I can define how much they have to pay and then they pay that amount then this could be perfect - I will test it and see how I go.
We offer an offline process for upgrading their membership status with us once they submit external documents to us to check and we charge a fee for anyone wanting this to be assessed.
Once they meet all requirements we want to charge them a fee that they can pay through their membership control panel area.
I want to send them an email from our office saying they are approved and they just need to login and pay the assessment fee waiting for them.
Once paid, they get the extra ACL access from Joomla and they are done.
Thanks

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2 weeks 6 days ago #178154 by Tuan Pham Ngoc
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OK Chris. Just want to make it clear, the defined payment amount will be for per form. You cannot define different payment amount for each user.

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2 weeks 6 days ago #178155 by Chris Jarvis
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Thank you
But I could make 1 form for everyone that I call maybe "Accreditation Assessment Fee" and that form only ever charges anyone $20 and I put that in a group called 'Accreditation Assessment" and then make a user part of that user group so they can pay their $20
Then another form is called "Professional Assessment Fee" and that only charges anyone $40 and I put those users/members in that group to pay?

I think I am reading in your documentation that I can create menu items that would show my members menu items where they can pay being directed to an individual form I pick and then also allowing them a menu item that shows them their payment history management am I? They are options on the create Menu Item type listings for Payment Form.

It looks pretty good Tuan thanks - because i can make each menu and form be in an ACL/Joomla User Group name that will help me I think.

Does Payment Form work like Membership Pro or Events Booking where when the payment is successful I can add them to chosen Joomla groups and remove them from others?

This looks exciting to try and build

Chris

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2 weeks 6 days ago #178156 by Tuan Pham Ngoc
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Hi Chris

Seem like it will work for your need. And Yes, Payment Form also has a plugin to allow assign payers to the user groups you want after they complete payment. See docs.joomdonation.com/paymentform/plugin...m-joomla-user-groups

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2 weeks 6 days ago - 2 weeks 6 days ago #178159 by Chris Jarvis
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You and your extensions are SO GOOD Tuan thanks.
Looking at your demo site and example forms.
Fixed Payment Amount Form & Selectable Fee Options Form & Combine Fee Fields Form will be so useful to me for a number of ideas we have - this is brilliant news to learn. The Fixed Payment Amount form is exactly what I wanted for this case though thanks.
I just have to be smart enough to build that example myself now. :)

I'll check out that plugin too thank you - that will apply the finish master touch perfectly
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2 weeks 6 days ago #178160 by Tuan Pham Ngoc
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OK Chris. If you have questions or need help, please don't hesitate to ask

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Tuan

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