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3 weeks 5 days ago - 3 weeks 5 days ago #176347
by Seán Ó Séaghdha
Australia Post shipping was created by Seán Ó Séaghdha
I cannot get the AusPost - Postage Assesment Calculator shipping method to work. On checkout there is no radio button or check box next to the method, so it can’t be selected and you can’t go any further.
In the shipping method settings everything is filled in. I have an API key. I’ve tried enabling/disabling Access AusPost Securely. I originally set it up with only this shipping method enabled, but I’ve tried with also Free Shipping enabled.
What else needs to be done? This was one of our main reasons we chose EShop.
[sorry for posting in the wrong subforum — please move]
In the shipping method settings everything is filled in. I have an API key. I’ve tried enabling/disabling Access AusPost Securely. I originally set it up with only this shipping method enabled, but I’ve tried with also Free Shipping enabled.
What else needs to be done? This was one of our main reasons we chose EShop.
[sorry for posting in the wrong subforum — please move]
Last edit: 3 weeks 5 days ago by Seán Ó Séaghdha.
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3 weeks 4 days ago #176366
by Giang Dinh Truong
Replied by Giang Dinh Truong on topic Australia Post shipping
Hi again Sean,
Thank you for submitting the ticket here. Please submit a new ticket to EShop category to send me the super admin account to your site so I can help you to check and find the reason of issue.
Sincerely, Giang
Thank you for submitting the ticket here. Please submit a new ticket to EShop category to send me the super admin account to your site so I can help you to check and find the reason of issue.
Sincerely, Giang
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3 weeks 3 days ago #176383
by Seán Ó Séaghdha
Replied by Seán Ó Séaghdha on topic Australia Post shipping
It turns out this was caused by a problem with our web hosting company, now resolved.
Now that I’ve done some testing, I have found some other problems though, so first I just want to describe the Australia Post parcel options (as I understand them).
There are three kinds of postage:
The labels on the options shown in the back end aren’t very clear and don’t match up with the names for different shipping at checkout. They also don’t very clearly connect with the categories described above. For example, the back end has Regular Parcel as its first option, which seems like it means a Regular Parcel Post package (not a satchel or flat rate package) and at checkout this does appear just as Parcel Post. You would expect there to be a matching Express Post Parcel, but there isn’t; only Express Post Satchel, which is a particular kind of Express Post parcel.
It’s confusing for the end user to see options at checkout like
The postage amount that appears at checkout for one of books we sell is $15 for Parcel Post. None of the packaging types costs this though. Flat rate Medium = $15.25, Pre-paid Medium = $15.65, Own packaging (calculated when you create a postage label): $15.65.
I don’t know where this figure comes from. Is it some bulk rate? Express Post (Express Post Satchel in the back end) at checkout shows as $19, but the prices are Flat rate Medium = $19.25, Pre-paid Medium / Own packaging: $19.65.
When I added the books as products, I used the dimensions of the A4 Rigid Mailer (but the height of the book) so that the calculator would have the dimensions of the actual package.
I was really hoping this would save me creating static links for different combinations of books, but if it can’t calculate the postage we actually have to pay, it’s not much use.
Calculate postage page (Australia Post)
Now that I’ve done some testing, I have found some other problems though, so first I just want to describe the Australia Post parcel options (as I understand them).
There are three kinds of postage:
- Parcel Post (often called Regular Post, though not an official name, usually delivered in 2 business days but not guaranteed) and
- Express Post (delivered the next day, most of the time)
- Courier (StarTrak semi-privatised, for more urgent or bulky items. We never use this, so I’ll ignore it below)
- Flat rate packaging — sold by Australia Post, 5 size classes, 5 kg maximum, slightly cheaper rates, if it fits in the package it qualifies for that category’s postage rate
- Pre-paid Satchels — sold by Australia Post, 5 size classes, 5 kg maximum, plastic, packing includes postage
- Everything else (Use your own packaging) — also includes Australia Post packaging that isn’t one of the above, up to 22 kg, rate depends on dimensions and weight
The labels on the options shown in the back end aren’t very clear and don’t match up with the names for different shipping at checkout. They also don’t very clearly connect with the categories described above. For example, the back end has Regular Parcel as its first option, which seems like it means a Regular Parcel Post package (not a satchel or flat rate package) and at checkout this does appear just as Parcel Post. You would expect there to be a matching Express Post Parcel, but there isn’t; only Express Post Satchel, which is a particular kind of Express Post parcel.
It’s confusing for the end user to see options at checkout like
- Medium satchel (delivered in 2 business days) ($20)
VS. - Medium satchel ($24)
- Prepaid Parcel Post Medium (3Kg) Satchel
VS. - Express Post Medium (3Kg) Satchel
The postage amount that appears at checkout for one of books we sell is $15 for Parcel Post. None of the packaging types costs this though. Flat rate Medium = $15.25, Pre-paid Medium = $15.65, Own packaging (calculated when you create a postage label): $15.65.
I don’t know where this figure comes from. Is it some bulk rate? Express Post (Express Post Satchel in the back end) at checkout shows as $19, but the prices are Flat rate Medium = $19.25, Pre-paid Medium / Own packaging: $19.65.
When I added the books as products, I used the dimensions of the A4 Rigid Mailer (but the height of the book) so that the calculator would have the dimensions of the actual package.
I was really hoping this would save me creating static links for different combinations of books, but if it can’t calculate the postage we actually have to pay, it’s not much use.
Calculate postage page (Australia Post)
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3 weeks 9 hours ago #176421
by Seán Ó Séaghdha
Replied by Seán Ó Séaghdha on topic Australia Post shipping
Can anyone who uses Australia Post shipping tell me if it works properly for you?
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2 weeks 3 days ago #176500
by Giang Dinh Truong
Replied by Giang Dinh Truong on topic Australia Post shipping
Hi again Seán Ó Séaghdha,
Thank you for submitting the question here. Seem what you want for Australia Post shipping option is harder and more complex than our default Australia Post shipping plugin can do.
If these are required feature for your store, then I am afraid that our extension does not meet the your requirements and it is not useful for your project.
Sincerely, Giang
Thank you for submitting the question here. Seem what you want for Australia Post shipping option is harder and more complex than our default Australia Post shipping plugin can do.
If these are required feature for your store, then I am afraid that our extension does not meet the your requirements and it is not useful for your project.
Sincerely, Giang
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2 weeks 3 days ago - 2 weeks 3 days ago #176513
by Seán Ó Séaghdha
Replied by Seán Ó Séaghdha on topic Australia Post shipping
It looks like I created some of this problem. When I added Australian Dollars as a currency I didn’t put anything in Decimal Places, so the prices appeared only as the whole dollar amount.
So, the calculator does work correctly for ‘own packaging’ type parcels.
The way these are labelled at checkout is still confusing though. Does this text come from Australia Post?
For Flat Rate packages I added a second plugin as described in the manual , but although I can change the text in checkout for the default plugin (through System | Translation | PLG_ESHOP_FLAT_TITLE & PLG_ESHOP_FLAT_DESC), but I can’t find any way to change the text for the second plugin, so at checkout it appears as PLG_ESHOP_FLAT2_TITLE with no text next to the radio button, just the amount. A search for PLG_ESHOP_FLAT2 in Translation finds nothing.
How can I change the text that appears for extra installed shipping plugins?
EDIT: I have created Language Overrides for PLG_ESHOP_FLAT2_TITLE, but creating one for PLG_ESHOP_FLAT2_DESC does nothing. It looks like the description might be missing from eshop_flat2.php.
It’s a bit confusing that this is called Translation because the only language I can ‘translate’ to here is en-GB, but our website languages are en-AU and ga-IE.
So, the calculator does work correctly for ‘own packaging’ type parcels.
The way these are labelled at checkout is still confusing though. Does this text come from Australia Post?
For Flat Rate packages I added a second plugin as described in the manual , but although I can change the text in checkout for the default plugin (through System | Translation | PLG_ESHOP_FLAT_TITLE & PLG_ESHOP_FLAT_DESC), but I can’t find any way to change the text for the second plugin, so at checkout it appears as PLG_ESHOP_FLAT2_TITLE with no text next to the radio button, just the amount. A search for PLG_ESHOP_FLAT2 in Translation finds nothing.
How can I change the text that appears for extra installed shipping plugins?
EDIT: I have created Language Overrides for PLG_ESHOP_FLAT2_TITLE, but creating one for PLG_ESHOP_FLAT2_DESC does nothing. It looks like the description might be missing from eshop_flat2.php.
It’s a bit confusing that this is called Translation because the only language I can ‘translate’ to here is en-GB, but our website languages are en-AU and ga-IE.
Last edit: 2 weeks 3 days ago by Seán Ó Séaghdha.
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2 weeks 1 day ago #176552
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Replied by Giang Dinh Truong on topic Australia Post shipping
Hi again Sean,
1. You can go to EShop -> System -> Currencies to edit Australia Currency to correct it.
2. You should go to EShop -> System -> Translation, then click on New button on toolbar to add the language items PLG_ESHOP_FLAT2_TITLE and PLG_ESHOP_FLAT2_DESC, then enter the value for them as you want.
I hope this is useful.
Sincerely, Giang
1. You can go to EShop -> System -> Currencies to edit Australia Currency to correct it.
2. You should go to EShop -> System -> Translation, then click on New button on toolbar to add the language items PLG_ESHOP_FLAT2_TITLE and PLG_ESHOP_FLAT2_DESC, then enter the value for them as you want.
I hope this is useful.
Sincerely, Giang
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